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The Hickory Woods Homeowners Association Forum -- About the new Farragut school zone... |
Forum for the Exchange of Ideas, Expression of Gripes, Good Words about the Neighborhood, or Anything Else...Brenda Rollins and I were talking about the new draft of the web page privacy policy with Jeff Withoft the other day and about other ideas for the web page. One of the ideas was a Forum page for expressing ideas. This is it and these are the ideas we thrashed about. To join the discussion just send an e-mail to hckrywds@chartertn.net or hwha@discoveret.org ... Table of contents
The Forum Page RulesThe forum page is a place to present ideas of interest to the neighborhood. These can be signed or anonymous, but not secret. If you want an idea posted, just e-mail to hckrywds@chartertn.net or to HWHA@korrnet.organd we will post it to this page. You may sign your letter and have your name posted or not posted. But you must sign your name or we won't post it. No bad language. No threats. Only civil language. Otherwise, have at it. About the new Farragut School Zone...
Dear friends and neighbors, I need your help. On Monday, November 20, the Knox County School Administration will be presenting the school board with the proposed new school zone for Hardin Valley High School. Those of us who live west of Smith Road and West of Virtue Road are in jeopardy of being rezoned out of the Farragut Community to Hardin Valley High School. My kids are terrified that they will be taken away from their friends in 9th grade to a community in which we know no one. Like many of you, we moved to the Town of Farragut specifically for the schools and now we may be rezoned to make room for those who may move to Farragut and the Choto area in the future. We think this is wrong!!! I am asking all of you to please send an email to the school administrators today asking that the west end of Farragut remain zoned for Farragut High School so that our town remains intact, not severed by an illogical school zone. I know some of you have children who are now grown, but please think how your children would have felt if they feared they would be taken away from their friends in 9th grade, friends they'd known for 10 years or more. Some of you are within the "safe area" which will stay zoned for FHS, but you also can support keeping all of Farragut together by also sending emails. If each of you could ask a few friends and neighbors to also send emails our request may be granted. It's the squeaky wheel that gets the oil!!! Please let the school administrators know that you support the following zone for FHS: The zone we support for FHS is:
Here are some of the many reasons we feel that the west end of Farragut should remain zoned for FHS:
Please personalize your e-mail rather than just forwarding this one. The more communication the schools receive, the better chance we stand of having our town stay intact. The email addresses for the school administrators are: Dr. Charles Q. Lindsey, School Superintendent lindseyc1@k12tn.net Dr. Roy Mullins, Deputy Superintendent mullinsr1@k12tn.net Dr. Bob Thomas, Assistant Superintendent bthomas@usit.net Dr. Rick Grubb, Supervisor, Transportation, Zoning and Attendance rrgrubb1@k12tn.net Mr. Russ Oaks, Director of Public Affairs oaksr@k12tn.net I thank each of you for your time, your friendship and your support. More...
Subject: Fwd: Fw: High School Rezoning Update November 20th As of this evening we do not know what the proposal will look like that will be presented to the school board on Monday at 5 PM. Several different versions were floating around last week. One had several Farragut neighborhoods zoned for Hardin Valley. Another version had the area North of Kingston Pike and West of Everett going to HVHS. For those of you in Saddle Ridge, Sedgefield, Fox Run and Orchid Grove, this proposal would be our worst case for several reasons. One, we may lose the support of the neighborhoods south of Kingston Pike. Therefore, I am encouraging everyone to attend tomorrow's meeting. Those making comments (if we are the only area in Farragut zoned to HVHS) should focus on the safety issues of Watt Road and that our children attend FMS. Our feeling is that middle school students should stay together. They do not want to hear about the Town of Farragut being split into different zones. They really don't care. But they do care about children's safety and their education. It may effect our children's interest in school if they have to start over meeting friends in high school. If you can't attend the meeting and have not been involved, I am hoping that you will support our group. We plan to meet at 7:00, this coming Tuesday at the Saddle Ridge clubhouse to regroup and create a new strategy based on what is proposed at Monday's meeting. A sincere thank you to all of you who have worked hard to let the Knox County School Board know how you feel. For those who have not raised their voice, I am hoping that you can help us over the next several weeks. This will not be over until December 6th. Let us hope that the outcome is the one we desire. Thank you. Pamela Treacy, Saddle Ridge Subdivision 567-1960 A note from Helen Lann...
Hello from Georgia: Just to let you know that I have moved in and all is well - if by "well" one means that ONE is existing in the middle of a fortress of boxes! My new address is: 4355 S. Lee St., F-2 The Hilliards should be installed in 616 before long and I wish them well. How could they not be happy in Hickory Woods? It is a wonderful neighborhood, full of friendly, caring folks. I shall always remember my six years there as some of the best in a long life of moving. I am now in house 35!! My thanks to all of you for making my stay in Hickory Woods so memorable. I shall miss you good people! Helen's e-mail is: hal.troy@worldnet.att.net. Smith Road Improvements Petition...
Several construction projects in works for Town, by Christopher Patton, Editor A future construction project for Farragut may be a 1,650-foot sidewalk addition along Smith Road from Andover Boulevard to Grigsby Chapel Road. Mayor Eddy Ford relayed the possibility of the project along with a few other to the Farragut board last month after attending a monthly meeting of the Knoxville Regional Transportation Planning Organization (TPO), which he serves as an executive board member. The TPO board approved eight applications for Tennessee Department of Transportation enhancement grants on of which was the Farragut application for the sidewalk project. The total project is estimaed to cost about 200,000 eith federal funds allocated by the state proposed to cover 80 percent of the project. According to Darryl Smith, Town engineer, the project would include the sidewalk addition, and curb and gutter along the north side of Smith Road. Although the width of the road is less than 21 feet in some areas, additional acquisition of right-of-way is not required for the project. The Knoxville-Knox county Metropolitan Planning Commission's 2002 traffic count at this location provides an average daily traffic estimate of 4,110 vehicles per day," Smith wrote in the grant application. "This, coupled with the generally substandard pavement width, makes pedestrian travel along this section of Smith Road very unsafe. "In particular this project would provide residents of Andover Place and Hickory Woods subdivisions, which together comprise over 275 homes, with save and convenient opportunity to access the primary pedestrian network which links the northern portion of Farragut to numerous activity centers in the area." Farragut's grant application for the project was denied last year, as were meny other municipalities' applications because of the state budget shortfall. "At least we have our name in the pot again this year and we do deeply appreciate being in that situationn," Ford said. "Another major action by TPO executive committee was to approve the Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) for fiscal years 2004 through 2006," he added. "There were several projects that directly relate to Farragut and several other projects that are around Farragut." The list of Farragut projects includes widening McFee Road from Boyd Station to Old Stage roads and widening Campbell Station Road to five lanes from Jamestown Boulevard to Parkside Drive. Both projects totaled together are estimated to cost more than $5.5 millon. Pahse II of McFee Road construction is scheduled for 2004 with 80 percent of the $3.3 million project being funded federally. Construction of the Campbell Station Road improvements are not expected until 2007. "Having this (Campbell Station Road widening) in the TIP is a mojro stem for the Town of Farragut," Ford said. A few of the upcoming projects that surround Farragut, but are located in Knox County are installing turn lanes or a round-a-bout on all approaches to the intersection of Concord Road and Northshore Drive. "The process is starting to what will be the next phase to the Campbell Station Road extension," Ford said.
Info from neighbors about the status of Smith Road I went to the town planning commission meeting Thursday night. The only mention of Smith Road was in connection with a Walgreen's that they're going to build near Click Funeral Home and a house they're building on Union Road, just south of Smith Road. The editor of the Press-Enterprise told me that Mrs. White-Randall merely presented the petition during the citizens' forum preceding the last meeting of March. He said the commission didn't appear interested since they're focused on the widening of McFee Road and the extension of South Campbell Station Road, both in Ward 2. (This was Bryan Farmer's complaint. Everything goes to Ward 2.) The reporter said the reasoning is that development just south of Ward 2 affects the traffic in Farragut. He said if anything comes of this petition, it would likely be in May when the budget for the next fiscal year is discussed. When is the next homeowners' meeting? We might need to ask how homeowners feel about improvements to Smith Road and if the subdivision should send a letter disavowing the implication that Mrs. White-Randall made that Hickory Woods was on-board with her request. The project on Smith Road will involve adding a sidewalk from Grigsby Chapel west to the neighborhood west of Hickory Woods (I can't remember the name). This will provide another connection for Hickory Woods to the Greenway/Sidewalk system in Farragut. It may also include some additional roadway pavement, because the road is very narrow (and sight distance is not very good) just east of Hickory Woods. It will not include any additional lanes. It will be a very good thing for the neighborhood.
It was brought to our attention that someone by the name of Andrea White-Randall is presenting a petition that states (along with several other neighborhoods) that Hickory Woods is supportive of improvements to Smith Road? Does anyone know who her group is and what is planned for Smith Road? Also, by "improving" does that mean widening? Widening will not only reduce personal safety, but will make traffic increase ten-fold as Smith Road becomes an easy connector for everyone through our area to Everett Road. It's already happening and it will only get worse. Do residents of Smith Road know what is in this plan and how it will effect their property? It seems to me that this project is moving along very quickly without much discussion and we need to know why. There is a Planning Commission meeting TONIGHT (Thursday, April 3 2003) at 7:00pm at Farragut Town Hall. If you attend, please report back what is being decided. It's important that our neighborhood know what is being proposed before we completely endorse a stranger's ideas. Thanks -- any feedback would be great! Charlotte Damage to house on Rolling Creek Road...
Damage Details: Ms. Lovelace on Rolling Creek Rd. heard a loud crashing noise Sunday morning (yesterday) and discovered that a part of her ceiling in her garage had falling down. Sheet rock and bricks had collapsed inside. She's also noticed that she has quite a few more cracks in her driveway (some of which have risen by maybe an inch) and also in the backyard concreted areas. There may be other problem areas. Could there have been a small earthquake tremor that could have caused this or just natural settling? Has anyone else had this problem or did you notice something similar at your house this weekend? Important: If you have worked with a contractor who specializes in restoration of structural damage like this, please let her/us know. Thanks!
Charlotte, There should be information on the Internet on possible earthquakes/tremors. I'll see if I can find anything. (Just checked USGS website -- they don't show any recent earthquake activity in this area. Here's a link: http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/) Could the recent rain (after a dry spell), have something to do with it? Those lots look like they get drainage down from Smith Road. Again, the town could help understand what might be going on there. Doesn't the house next to them have a cracking/settling problem? I seem to recall noticing a crack in the brickwork a few years ago when we were walking by. Jim Waring
Most of Knoxville is built on karst soil, which means the limestone underneath us is honey-combed. We have had some serious settling in our house that is causing cracks in the masonry between bricks. The driveway is also buckling. A few years ago a section of Everette Road caved into a sinkhole. I guess we better make sure homeowners' insurance covers this. Charles Walker
I would call John Brewster of J. D. Brewster construction. His number is: 522-9888 Or Call Gerald Hollingsworth Of Hollingsworth Construction at: 573-0247 Both are reliable and good. David Note: David Maxwell is our newest neighbor. He bought the Gebrow's home at the corner of Valley Trail and Hickory Woods in September. John Andrews
It seems that every area of Hickory Woods has been effected by sinkholes at one time or another. Bill Rowan on Mountain Breeze had some damage repaired and would be glad to help anyone who has problems with this. His number is 675-6550.
If anyone has had a good experience with a contractor in the past 4-6 months, please submit names and phone numbers. Some of the older recommendations are no longer in business or don't have the same phone numbers/can't be reached. A few of our neighbors would like to use people who are highly recommended especially now that some of these sink hole and foundation problems are becoming more evident. Please submit names and phone numbers and I'll send the list around again, so that everyone has an opportunity to get a complete list. Thanks! Spruce tree not attacked by beetles...
July 4th
Webmaster: This is a little late in coming but Theresa & I want to extend a special thanks to our neighbors, Leon & Gloria Paul, for taking the time to notify us of a problem at our home over the 4th of July Holiday weekend. We were vacationing at Jekyll Island, GA and with Theresa's kids on a 2-week visit with their dad, we asked the Paul's to keep an eye on things. Gloria called us the morning of 7/5 and advised us of a vehicle in our driveway that had been there all night. After her description of the car we determined it was a friend of our son Dustan. The two had decided to spend the night and celebrate the 4th in our driveway and front yard (as well as in the house). Our sincerest apologies to any of our neighbors that were awakened by the war zone sounds so early in the morning. After a stern message left on our answering machine and just before Gloria was going to confront the occupants, Dustan and his friend were seen by Gloria exiting the home post haste. Needless to say, when we arrived home that Sunday, the driveway and yard did in fact look like a war zone. I can only imagine the noise made at 2 in the morning as Dustan had been working at the Watt Road Fireworks Store and was obviously armed for bear! In any event, having someone keep an eye on the homestead when away really works, especially when that someone are neighbors such as the Paul's....again, our sincerest thanks. Regards, Bill Priest LANDSCAPING!
Some of you may have noticed some recent changes to the landscape as you entered the neighborhood along Hickory Woods Drive. Let me take this opportunity to introduce myself and explain the nature of those changes. We are the Hadens at 511 Rolling Creek Road. You may be familiar with our property as the only remaining undeveloped lot in the subdivision. Some of you may have not even known there was a house on the property as it could scarcely be seen from Hickory Woods Drive through the underbrush, entangled vines, and dead trees of all sizes and varieties. Our lot has been an eyesore to community for quite a few years. We have had at least two requests from the Hickory Woods Neighborhood Association to clean the lot during the three years we have lived here. You may (or may not) be glad to know that we have contracted a landscaper to clean the lot. Since last Friday they have cleared most of the brush and dead debris, with no great amount of cooperation from the weather. The plans are to seed and straw the disturbed area as soon as the ground is dry enough to work properly. All of this work has come at no small personal expense, so we hope that it will be viewed not only as an investment in the equity of our property, but also as a gift that will enhance the overall impression of the neighborhood as you enter on Hickory Woods Drive. If we have offended any of our neighbors by clearing this lot, we sincerely apologize. We know there was at least one anonymous complaint filed with the city´s building codes and fire marshal´s office. Inspectors from those departments have visited the project and because of restrictions they have placed on using equipment near the creek bank, we hate to inform you that the clearing will not proceed to the road frontages along Hickory Woods Drive and Rolling Creek Road as originally planned. We regret this as it seriously retards the full benefit we had hoped to share with the entire neighborhood.. It wasn´t our intent to anger someone who lives possibly several blocks form us by improving our property. If any of you have questions, comments, suggestions, etc. concerning anything we choose to do to our personal property, I encourage you to, no, I INSIST that you visit us personally and express your concerns. I have managed, by the grace of God, to live to be 53 years old and hope that I have learned to make prudent decisions in that amount of time. If you disagree with those decisions, if you think you are better at deciding what is best for my property, I invite you to, no, I INSIST that you, as a mature adult, visit me personally or reach me at any of the contacts below and discuss those decisions and/or suggest viable alternatives. Thank you for your obvious concern. Kenneth Haden DOGS!?March 18, 2002
We are looking for anyone in the Hickory Woods area who may have had problems with a neighborhood bull dog. If you, or any member of your family, neighbors or friends have been bitten or frightened by a large brown bull dog with a black mask, please call:
Brown Braden Davis, Investigations VANDALISM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD!1/8/2002 Subj: vandalism John, would you please forward this to our neighbors? Thank you. Last night, (Monday Jan. 7, 2002) at about 8:30 p.m. someone drove a vehicle through my front yard for the sole purpose of knocking down my children's snowman. The result of this thoughtless behavior is a damaged front yard, parts of which will have to be reseeded. The purpose of this email is to ask parents to talk to their children about the consequenses of their actions and to explain to children and teenagers that pranks such as smashing mailboxes or driving through yards are not funny, cost both money and time to repair, and hurt the feelings of those affected. We live in a great neighborhood. Let's not lower it a notch it by accepting this type of behavior. Thanks for your support. Fiona Hill ANIMAL ALERT -- COYOTES KILLING CATS!September 2001 bulletin
All homeowners should keep their cats and dogs close to home, if not inside. Recently, four family pet cats have been attacked, mauled, and killed, and three other pet cats are missing. These incidents have appeared on Rolling Creek and Hickory Woods Road. At first, it was believed th be large vicious dogs. However, someone has reported seeing several coyotes in our area toward Berkley Park. WARNING: These animals may attack any of your pets, and right now, they are only attacking during night hours. Be on the look out! HWHA has talked with Knox County Animal Control and they have some traps that we can use to catch them.
September 12, 2001 Jake, another Valley Brook-Rolling Creek neighbor cat was also missing this morning. Jake is very old, completely deaf, has crooked hind legs, and a crooked tail. He is a very friendly black cat with a white whisker. If you find him, please give Chris Verstegen or us a call. Please keep your samll pets in at night and alert the Knox County animal control at 215-5240 if you see any roaming dogs in the neighborhood. Charlotte and Thomas Klasson 9-16-01
We recently gave our two cats to a place that will find homes for adult cats. If you want to replace your lost cat and you want to get an adult cat and save it from ... you know, give me a call. The place is named Angel Wings. The operators also operate the U-Haul rental agency in Kingston. They would love to give you a cat to replace the one you lost. John Andrews, Webmaster Table of ContentsHickory Woods Nicest Web Page3/7/2001 Subj: Question on your Web Site Date: 3/7/2001 8:59:39 PM Eastern Standard Time From: LauraInFla8 To: HckryWds Hello From Clermont Florida! (right outside Orlando) I have to say yours was the nicest I came across! I have a question though... I would be the webmaster, and want to cover my/ourselves (ie: disclaimers, legal stuff, etc.)... This will be the first site I've ever built. I just came back from a board meeting tonight that approved the "go ahead" for our web site, but before I get too gung ho, I think I need to maybe talk to a lawyer? Is this necessary, and if you don't mind my asking... how did your association go about creating your legal page? If you could give me some general guidelines, I would really appreciate the info. Thanks for your time, LauraInFla8@aol.com To which we replied with a long list on the structure of the web site and how to use our templates for constructing her site. Good luck, Laura, and come and see us from time to time. Hickory Woods Open House12/12/2000 Subj: Re: Pictures are on the web. This was so cool! Thanks for the pictures and all of the planning that made the HW Christmas Open House so lovely and fun! 12/12/2000 Fire Ants in Hickory Woods?9/27/2000
*** Ant-eating flies may rescue South -- News report, November 15, 2000 WASHINGTON (AP) - A tiny Brazilian fly whose larvae literally eat the heads off of fire ants will be unleashed across the South under a government program to control the vicious ants that are a spreading menace to homeowners, farmers and wildlife. The Agriculture Department, which claims the gnat-like phorid fly is of no danger to anybody or anything other than fire ants, announced plans Wednesday to release hundreds of thousands of them in the South and possibly in California, where the ants have now spread. Fire ants can make life miserable for homeowners and gardeners and cause billions of dollars in damage every year to air conditioners, electrical equipment and farms, experts say. The ants can blind and even kill livestock and wildlife, and the sting is occasionally fatal to humans. The ants, which are native to South America, have no natural enemies in the United States. Chemical treatments are only effective temporarily. The Agriculture Department started studying the flies in 1993 to see if they could harm anything other than fire ants. Nothing other than the fire ants would attract them, including animal dung or human waste, so the government is confident they will be completely safe for the environment, Brenner said. Table of ContentsRepaving Hickory Woods Streets
9/4/2000 9/13/2000 The list of streets for this fall's resurfacing contract has already been approved and does not include any streets in Hicory Woods Subdivision. However, we will consider this request when preparing next years list. Streets are chosen for resurfacing by the Farragut Board of Mayor and Aldermen upon recommendation from the staff. The staff uses information from the Pavement Management Systems randings of streets and teh amount of traffic on each street to make these recommendations.She included a memo from the Darryl W. Smith (966-7057) outlining the budget for the year and the streets to be resurfaced. Streets to be resurfaced include:
11/15/2000 Dear Melissa, Thank you for your message and interest in improving life for the citizens of the Town of Farragut. I share your concern about the many roads which are in need of re paving. Many of the subdivisions are of similar age and hence the re paving needs are more numerous than usual. We have been aware of this situation and approximately doubled the usual funds for this purpose. You will be happy to know that the re paving you requested will be accomplished this fall - in fact in the next week or so. Depending on the weather and the contract with the milling contractor, it is possible that the paving would not happen until Spring. The paving group closes shop in mid-December. Therefore, if the milling isn't completed soon it will likely be spring before the project is begun. (She didn't say, but I got the impression that the paving would only be done on Hickory Woods Road. The curbs would not be changed.) The Board of Mayor and Alderman voted to defer another project ( the engineering study for the replacement of Union Rd.Bridge ) and release those monies for additional re paving in a few locations in town. I know this is pleasing to you and all the residents of Hickory Woods. This project will proceed with milling of the existing pavement which will be followed with the re-paving. In regard to the car parking situation unfortunately this is a matter for your Homeowners Association. I know many subdivisions have covenants and restrictions which address that problem or concern. We do not have a way of policing infractions of that sort ( I assume you have some restrictions in place in your neighborhood). I would very much like to speak with you if you would like to phone me. My telephone number is 966-6232. Again, thank you for contacting me. I look forward to speaking with you. Connie Rutenber 11/15/2000 Hello, Yet another update. If this is old news, please disregard! I spoke with Connie Rutenber this evening. She just wanted to clarify something from her email. She said that depending on the weather and the contract with the "milling" contractor - it is possible that the paving would not happen until Spring. The paving group closes shop in mid-December. Therefore, if the milling isn't completed soon it will likely be spring before the project is begun. She didn't say, but I got the impression that the paving would only be done on Hickory Woods Road. The curbs would not be changed. Thanks 3/15/2001 Thank you for your message. Things are right on schedule - work crews getting on board with re paving company. Hickory Woods Rd will be re paved this Spring as planned - ( due to asphalt plant closing earlier than usual last Fall.) The actual date work will begin is not precisely scheduled but all should be accomplished by end of April. I will message you again when I have specific info. If you have any questions at all please get in touch. I will respond promptly. Regards Connie Rutenber 3/15/2001 4/2/2001 HW Dogwoods
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Truck Rules
you might want to delete some of the old truck news off the web site. At this point, there can be no TN legislation until UT completes the "study" of the Pilot Program that is running through Knoxville. The study was sent to TDOT after one year but TDOT wanted more answers so the study was continued by UT for another year and the Pilot Program continued. At this point, UT is completing the study and TDOT waits for it to be delivered again. I have a contact with TDOT and he recommends that people write to the TDOT and express to them what they think about the Pilot Program. If letters say that it is a good Program, they will consider putting the Pilot Program in other cities across TN. At this time, the letters received are about evenly distributed with "yes" it's great to "no" it's a bad idea. To make a difference in safety for our interstate system write to: State of Tennessee Department of Transportation
Best Regards,
Ann updates us on March 1, 2001 with the new bill numbers for this legislative year.
If you want to send a quick message to the Senators on the Transportation Com., you can "cut and paste" the e-mail addresses listed below and ask them to support Bill 182 to move those large trucks to the right most lanes except to pass. It comes up on April 11 at 8 AM at the TN legislature so we have to move fast. Thank you so so so much for all that you are doing. Addresses:
Ann Durall Ann sends the latest update...
Senator Burchett sent an e-mail today that the Senate will hear SBill182 this week. Rep. Hagood also informed me that the Representatives are having a special meeting about HBill371 on Wednesday. It seems that the trucking lobby now concedes that the trucks need to be in the right most lane in the rural areas but they don't agree on the metropolitan areas. We have a short time to get out a last strong request to the Senators and Representatives. Please take time to make a call, e-mail. They are finally getting the message that we are serious. Thank you, Ann
I am going to forward to you an e-mail that I received from Rep. Hagood. The Bill failed last week but we have made a beginning and I feel good about Knoxville being selected as a Pilot Program in the safety area. I have put 100s of hours into this and am going to be very watchful. Thanks for posting the truck info this winter. ----------------- Ann,
Kid-Sitters
Fleenor Concerned About Rash of Burglaries
Cat Watchers
Street Lights
Good Page! Good Ghost!
Stickers for HW Cars?Here's a suggestion from Mike Scourby to C. Klasson and forwarded to the Forum. Let everyone know what you think--
Wine Tasting Group
Loose Dogs Getting Into Trash There is a big chocolate lab getting into trash in our neighborhood. (Report received May 28, 1999)
Loose dogs that make a nuisance of themselves are subject to being picked up by the animal control
people. If the dog is yours, please control him (or her)... (or it, who knows...) so the dog
is not a nuisance.
Have given a brief look at the site--so far, so good! Great job! By the way, I agree with the comments regarding pets. We just got initiated this morning--somebody's dog(s) turned over our garbage can and scattered our lovely trash! Bungie cords on the top from now on!!! Speeding on Hickory Woods Drive
John Andrews
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