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Post Lantern Guidelines -- Meeting committee report. |
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| This page contains the information about the proposed installation of owner supplied street lamps to be placed at the curb, generally near the mailbox. One of the purposes is to establish costs and the design standards for the neighborhood. Another is to evaluate cost options and to help the neighbors decide to do this work as a coordinated effort. Ann Durall is the contact for information. This page will post comments and discussion about the project. |
Date: 2/28/02 At the February HWHA meeting at the Paul's home, a report was given by the committee to inform residents of how the estimates were developing for Post and Lantern lighting. A third estimate was not available. We have two estimates that do not give a complete lock and key type of dollar figure. The committee will continue to report to you a more solid base of information. We know that the total cost of a light and post with photo cell will be $112.50 from Stokes if as many as 20 are ordered. (A savings of $40.00) The big issue that you need to know about is "How much is it going to cost to have a contractor put this in my yard?" This is where the committee will try to get some answers. It will be a different cost for each home based on placement and your expectations. Check the Web Page for a picture of the selected lantern. Now, this is very important. If you are interested in this post/lantern for your yard, please call or email to me your name so that we can get the information to you as we receive details. Let me know if you are interested in the lantern/post only or the complete lantern and post with a contractor doing the job. You are not being asked to make a commitment to this project. We just want to know where the interest is in the neighborhood. We realize that many of you already have adequate lighting and others just aren't interested. That's OK! but for those that are playing with the idea of adding this to their property for safety, beauty, updating present lighting - we want to hear from you so that we can communicate with you directly.
From: Ann Durall (ADurall37@AOL.com)
To: HckryWds, TmiCci
Subj: Post lights in HW
Thanks, Ann Durall, Chairman

Recommended Lantern Type
The committee has tentatively recommended the following lantern type:
These post lamps are available from Progress Lighting as the Welbourne Collection, model P5482-30 or -31.
Ann Durall contacted all the committee members and asked them to meet on September 6th and discuss the actions to be taken.
At the committee meeting on September 6, 2001, John Andrews presented photographs of all the current lamp posts now installed in the neighborhood. The homeowners on Mt Breeze have installed common lampposts on most curbs. These are standard 3-inch post systems. A number of other types including lamps on brick mail stands are found on houses in the neighborhood. See below for some of these pictures.
Jim Waring gave a short report on his research into the lighting. This included a discussion of the costs of ditching and the need for a qualified contractor to do that work. One person from KUB did not recommend that gas lights be used because of the uncertainty of the cost of gas and the fact that the lamps are on all day. (NOTE: We have not contacted KUB officially.) Light sensors can be used to turn on and off the electric lights so they only are on at night.
John Andrews noted that two general types of post lamps.
Ann Durall suggested that we contact Stokes, Inc. or other lighting stores to get a quotation on installation and costs of a typical system. She offered to do that. Costs will likely be the cost of the fixture plus an additional cost per foot of underground electric wiring. the committee discussed contacting Mike Fleenor who managed the installations on Mountain Breeze. We also discussed contacting other residents who may have pertinent information.
One of the subjects was the durability of the lights and the ease of replacement if they are damaged or just wear out. The committee is looking to make a specific recomendation about this factor because it affects the long term appearance of the neighborhood. We also noted that some light posts in other neighborhoods are not plumb. This is essential for a neat appearance.
[Top]Here are some pictures of the current streetside lighting fixtures in the neighborhood. All of these use the 3-inch post system. There are others built into the brick mailbox holders and one solar powered light system. These others are not pictured.
Additional information about pole lights and post lanterns (the common terminology) can be found at a number of web sites. Look up those terms using any of the search engines. I used Google.com and came up with these and more:
Concern about Stray Light
One of our neighbors brought up his concern about stray light. There are two very good articles in the April 2002 issue of Sky & Telescope about lighting your home. The first, Your Home Lighting Guide, How to light your home safely, save energy, and decrease light pollution at the same time by Rachel Thessin and David L. Crawford discusses the use of lighting around the home and the problems of stray light. This is a good article. It talks about the costs of lighting, different bulb types, motion sensors, neighbor-friendly lights, and gives names of vendors with good products. Here is their list of sites for further information:
Manufacturers
Retailers (* online-only sources)
Online sources for lighting help
We are looking for feedback on this subject. If you want to add to this commentary, send an e-mail to hckrywds@aol.com. and we will post your comment here and forward your note to the other committee members. So, look for updates from time to time.
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